Dune: Part Two (4K Ultra HD + Digital)

I've got copies of all the Dune movies released on disc, so far. As a general rule, if you have not read the books (or talked a lot to people, or done other study) the movies are impossible to follow. Or, at the very least, you won't know how what you are seeing fits into a MUCH larger picture. Part of this is due to the general inability of movies to capture the depth, breadth, subtlety, history, context, side elements, etc. of books. Books often have "narration" explaining the situations/context/circumstances, and the internal thoughts and feelings of characters. Movies tend to include only the most superficial plot elements, and over emphasize the parts that include action. I can very easily imagine people liking the movies, and not having a clue how much is glossed over or completely missing. Mentats, for example. There are 30 (or is it 23?) Dune books. The first 6 were written by Frank Herbert. The rest are written by his son Brian with help from Kevin J. Anderson. Almost everyone (to my knowledge) agree the first 6 are "better". The rest purportedly lack the same "creative genius", mostly expanding details of established plot elements, but are considered worth the read. All-in-all, Dune is considered (by many) to be, the best example of "world building" story telling, ever, bar none (Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.; Even Hobbits/Rings), for scale, scope, depth, complexity, subtly, grandeur, vision etc. Volume one is 592 pages. The 1984 Lynch film covers book one. The director took "serious" liberties with a major plot element ("the weirding way", leaving out some things, and inventing others.). I did read numerous commentaries about the the 84 film, before seeing it. I was able to tell where in the narrative the movie was, but that is the most I can say. Much later (after seeing the BBC versions) I became aware of, and watched, the (even less well known) "Spice Driver Fan Edit" version of the (not well known) extended version of the 1984 movie. The Fan Edit rendition is a BIG improvement over the 1984 film. But, to be fair, by this time I knew a lot more about the "big picture" of the story, so I could better "appreciate" what I was seeing. The 2000 BBC mini-series, being longer, did more-and-better justice to the story. (IMHO, BBC consistently does "a good job"). The 2003 BBC mini-series, (same cast with one exception) also being longer, also did commendable justice to the story. Together these cover books one and three but still left a lot out. By the time I saw these (years after their release), I knew enough to appreciate this rendition. I get the feeling that the "theme" of book 2 is generally included in both the Lynch and BBC screen renditions. The 2021 and 2024 Villeneuve films together cover book one. These films are more visually striking that earlier efforts. WOW! The scope and scale of things can be incredible. And having 2 movies to work with (more time), they did a better justice to the "entire" story of volume one (but still left a lot out). The anticipated 3rd film is purported to address book 2. Now (Dec 2024) HBO is doing a 6 episode TV series of based on the 17th book, which is set 10,000 years from now and 10,000 years before the story lines of the other movies. Again, monumental scope. When eventually available, I'll get these on disc. But, for me, this is the least "wow" of all the screen renditions. I never actually read the books (reading learning disability). Having done a lot of reading of synopses and commentaries, talked to many other fans, and having seen every screen version more than once, I now have a much better idea of the "bigger picture". And can, therefore, appreciate all the films (needing/making allowance for Lynch's liberties). If I ever become a trillionaire, I'll make the entire story using as many movies/episodes are are required to make the movie-equivalent of an unabridged version of the story.

Outstanding. Very happy this story and its lessons were chosen to be retold using all the tech available right now. Superb acting, costumes, makeup, sound, graphics etc. The love story between Paul and Chani was handled well, avoiding overindulgence. So excited for the 3rd movie to screen. A modern day or futuristic GOT of sorts.

This movie had me hooked from start to finish. The storyline was powerful, the acting was top-notch, and the emotions felt so real. I loved how it kept me guessing and pulled at my heartstrings at the same time. The visuals and soundtrack added so much depth. Definitely one of the best films I’ve seen in a while — highly recommend watching it!

Keep in mind that most of what I have to say about the movie as it exists within its own vacuum is positive. With that in mind, let's get into a few of those: 1. Chalamet's acting as Paul was superb. I was concerned going into this movie about how he was going to become the kind of powerful leader that Paul becomes in the novels, but he did just as good a job convincing me with his performance as Paul did with the Fremen. This was a pleasant surprise, as I did not have high hopes after the end of the first part. 2. Feyd-Rautha, I felt, was handled extremely well. He was an intimidating presence on screen, and highlighted even moreso how cruel the Harkonnens are as a house. 3. The visual and set design is superb. Everything feels almost exactly as one would envision the world of Arrakis, and by extension, the rest of the Dune universe, would. 4. The audio is masterfully used. If you have surround sound I implore you to watch and listen to both this and part 1 with it. You really feel the power behind each sound. 5. The story hits all the important parts and gets the point across well. You can tell that Villeneuve is a fan of the books. Most of these positives are enough to make the movie worth watching, but lets get into a few gripes that I have with the story. 1. While Chani, for the most part, is handled well, the way they chose to write her, especially towards the last thirty to forty-five minutes of screen time, was not handled as well, in my opinion. She is used as a mouth piece to essentially sell the main point of the Dune franchise, which is to be cautious of trusting Messianic/heroic figures and/or charismatic leaders, because they can often lead us into trouble or straight up be propped up by propaganda/lies. However, the message is already obvious if you pay attention to the story enough, and it was not necessary for Chani to spell it out for the audience, and feels like it was written because the filmmakers think we're stupid and won't get the point. It doesn't hurt the movie on its own, but knowing that we are getting Dune Messiah (the sequel book to the original Dune for those not in the know) at some point, Chani being written this way and being estranged from Paul at the end of the movie boxes Dune Messiah in and doesn't leave a satisfying or well-written way for their relationship to go from here if you know anything about what happens in the novels moving forward from Dune. I will be cautiously optimistic about how they choose to handle this plot point moving forward, but as it currently stands, this part specifically left a bad taste in my mouth. This is not a dig at Zendaya, who is a solid actress and played the part extremely well, but rather at the choice to write Chani in this way. 2. While the Bene Gesserit are handled extremely well, where are the Mentats and the Guild Navigators? They are just as important to the world and story of Dune as the Bene Gesserit are, and they make up an essential part of why Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach, but other than Thufir being on screen for maybe a total of 3-4 minutes in part 1 and an even briefer appearance of the Harkonnen Mentat, they are otherwise entirely absent and I don't think they are even mentioned one time in either part 1 or 2. Guild Navigators are maybe mentioned once, if at all, but they are important because they are the reason space travel exists and why spice must be harvested for the Imperium. The reason they are important for Paul's story is that he has training with all 3 organizations: The Bene, the Mentats, AND the navigators. Here, they went more with a purely Bene Gesserit route. Again, I understand the desire to focus more on them because they play perhaps the most important part in the story of the Kwisatz Haderach, and taking attention away from them hurts that story a bit, and if they devoted more attention to the other 2 organizations, then the movie would be way longer, but it is a potential disservice and will make it harder to write them into the next movie because we as an audience will be asking where these guys were the entire time things were going down in part 1 and 2. 3. While Christopher Walken played the emperor well, unfortunately I feel there just wasn't a whole lot for him to do or enough focus given to him to develop him as a character. 4. I understand why they wrote Alia the way they did, because it's hard to find a child actress that can play a role this nuanced, it sort of detracts from her role in the story and shortens the time Jessica and Paul spent with the Fremen significantly, making things feel rushed along a bit. They made it work for what they could do, but it is a small nitpick that takes away from that aspect of the book a bit. Overall, this was a pretty faithful adaptation. I would give it an 8/10. It could have handled things a lot better, but it was still a good movie that I recommend. I have no idea how they're going to rectify things in Dune Messiah that they did poorly here, but I'm cautiously optimistic given Villeneuve is actually a fan of the story that he can make an adaptation just as faithful. Time will tell.

awesome movie

Good movie

I had already seen Dune: Part Two before purchasing this set, and I knew it was a film I had to own in my collection. It arrived in perfect condition, and after watching it again in the comfort of my home, I still loved it. I've seen plenty of movies in my life, but this one was one of the rare few that truly blew me away, even as the end credits were rolling. The visuals are stunning, the sound is intense and immersive, and you can feel every character’s emotion throughout the movie. While many felt that the first film was a bit slow, Part Two makes up for that and ramps up both the story and the action. By the time the credits rolled, I was just sitting there, hit with that rare feeling of both satisfaction and anticipation. Dune: Part Two isn’t just a great sci-fi film; it’s one of the best cinematic experiences I’ve ever had.

Bardzo dobry film - niestety bez Polskich napisów :(

J'avais vu le 1 au cinéma. Je ne sais plus me déplacer pour le moment, mais J'avais envie de voir la suite. Voilà chose faite. J'ai beaucoup aimé mais j'aime beaucoup la science fiction.

Déjà le premier est un chef d'œuvre...la suite l'est tout autant... 10/10...

Niet duidelijk vermrld dat er geen nl ondertiteling beschikbaar is

Ich rezensiere Dune 1 & 2 gemeinsam als Komplettwerk, da diese auf dem Buch von Frank Herbert basieren. Ich habe das Buch nie komplett gelesen, da es schwer lesbar ist. Ich bin aber ein Fan der 1984er Verfilmung von David Lynch bzw. des ca. 3 Stunden TV Cut (Extented Version), den er aber abgelehnt hat und deswegen Alan Smithee als Director in den Credits genannt wird. Größtenteils ist diese Fassung identisch mit den Fan Edits, z.b. dem Spacediver Edit (-> Youtube: Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver / Multiple Subs / 4K Upscaling by GW Die 2000er TV Verfilmung kenne ich nur oberflächlich, diese war mir dann doch zu trashig. Jodorowskys Version / Preproduction aus den 1970ern wäre mir wahrscheinlich auch zu abgespaced gewesen 😉(-> Youtube: Jodorowsky’s Dune: Hinter den Kulissen | Doku HD Reupload | ARTE Ist Villeneuve’s Dune (1 UND 2) tatsächlich so ein Meisterwerk, wie so oft behauptet? Für mich nicht, dazu ist das Drehbuch ab und zu etwas zu unausgegoren, aber es ist definitiv das beste SF Epos der letzten Dekade. Zuerst einmal größten Respekt für den Mut Part 1 zu drehen ohne sicher zu sein, dass die Zuschauer das Werk so annehmen, dass auch die Finanzierung für Part 2 sichergestellt ist. Wie beginnt Dune? Im Gegensatz zu Lynch wird auf eine informative Einleitung verzichtet, die Welt erschließt sich dem aufmerksamen Zuschauer wenn er sich drauf einlässt eher so nach und nach, anstatt durch klassische Exposition. Man muss aber dazu sagen, das es Villeneuve es leichter hatte, da der Stoff durch 2 Verfilmungen bekannt und durch das INet Hintergründe schnell recherchierbar sind. Ich empfehle da den Prolog der Extented TV Fassung (Youtube: DUNE PROLOGUE TV extended version). Hier wird auf Butler Dschihad und die Entwicklung der Häuser, sowie der Gilde und den Bene Gesserit näher eingegangen, so dass das Universum und die Technologie zugänglicher wird. Grundsätzlich kann man Villeneuve eine Audiovisuelles Meisterwerk schon zusprechen. Das Art Design, die Kameraarbeit von Greig Fraser, der Soundtrack von Hans Zimmer sind fantastisch. Die Darsteller machen alle einen hervorragende Job. Die SFX sind auf hohem Niveau, CGI wurde ergänzend aber nie ausschließlich eingesetzt. (Grüße an Marvel). Wenn man nun aber das Gesamtwerk betrachtet fallen Entscheidungen beim Storytelling auf, die mir etwas seltsam anmuten. Und ich differenziere grundsätzlich zwischen literarischer Vorlag und einem Film, das sind 2 getrennte Medien. Villeneuve nimmt sich über 5 Stunden Zeit um die Geschichte zu erzählen, während die Lynch TV Fassung mit 3 Stunden auskommen muss. Trotzdem habe ich nicht das Gefühl, das wichtiges für den Gesamtkontext weggelassen wurde, ganz im Gegensatz zum Lynch Kino Cut. Es wird z.b. die Figur des Mentaten Thufir Hawat eingeführt, um ihn dann einfach nicht mehr zu beachten? Es muss ja nicht zum Katzenmelken und zum Herzstöpsel führen, aber ich hätte schon gerne gewusst, was mit ihm passiert ist. (Lynch hatte sein Ende gefilmt, aber auch nicht verwendet: -> Youtube: Dune - Extended/Alternate Ending Auf der anderen Seite wird eine Lady Margot Fenring minutenlang eingeführt, die aber tatsächlich hier erstmal nichts zur Handlung beiträgt. Und solche Beispiele gibt es mehr. Ob man z. b. die Geburt von Leto II. einbringen muss ist kreative Freiheit, sowohl Lynch als auch Villeneuve haben darauf verzichtet. Außerdem stoßen mir nicht nachvollziehbare, massive Veränderungen zum Zeitgeschehen auf. Der Roman ist aus den 1960ern und spielt im Jahre 10100+. Warum muss ein solcher Stoff an den aktuellen Zeitgeist mit dem Vorschlaghammer angepasst werden? Es ist mir ehrlich gesagt grundsätzlich egal, ob aus dem weissen Mann eine quotenfarbige Frau gemacht wird, aber Dr. Lyat Kynes ist nun mal der VATER von Chani. Da Familienbande, Harkonne-Atreides, Politische Eheschließungen, Nachkommen männlich-weiblich ein großer Teil von Dune sind erscheint mir das zumindes fragwürdig. Oscars (Teil 1!): * Beste Filmmusik (Hans Zimmer) * Bester Schnitt * Beste visuelle Effekte * Bestes Szenenbild * Beste Kostüme * Bester Ton Mein persönliches Fazit: Ein faszinierendes Audiovisuelles Meisterwerk mit tollem Cast, das aber bei der Story dann doch ein paar Punkte verliert. Den OscarsGerade der Anfang des 2. Teil zieht sich etwas in die Länge. Außerdem bietet der 2. Teil doch zu wenig neues. Spätestens hier hätte sich die Einführung der Navigatoren angeboten. Weshalb ist das Spice denn so unverzichtbar und deshalb so wertvoll? Ich würde mich auf einen 3. Teil freuen, der dann die Geschichte von Paul Muadib Usul Atreides zu Ende erzählt. Sehr gute 4 von 5* für den Film, die BR ist soweit auch gut.