i9-13900KF

i upgraded from 5900xt. I got the msi board z690 -a for 159, and this the 13900kf. I ‘ve been wanting a cpu with an IGPU for years, but couldn’t justify the price increase on the gpu version. I actually use a dgpu but it really is convenient, and they can be used to accelerate some work. Again, before you judge i'm using this for work, productivity. NOT gaming. I would spend 200 for a gaming cpu. my use case is productivity. i’m a developer, and this is the sole reason i upgraded. I was fighting windows freezing and slowing down during a lot of my workflows. I use wsl intellj, docker, react apps java etc, often at the same time. It’s pretty noticeable the improvement. It really helped. Like that i could use ddr4 for now since the boards are about 150 it was acceptable. Heat: The cpu gets a bad reputation due to heat and wattage. I put this in the bucket frankly that amd got as well. I mean it’s fine they are using as much power as needed to maximize perf. I limited the cpu to 250w, and it runs on a d15 cooler than my 5900, Full load can get up to high 80c, but working is 30’s. you lose very little perf by running it more in the zone. I don't know about other boards but that msi one sure makes it easy and the price if right. About the cpu: it has a ton of cores, I didn't need to buy ddr5-- i need quite a lot of ram and it still costs too much for the benefit it provides in my workload. The memory controller on 13gen is far better than ryzen 5000 series. I couldn't before get my ddr4 stable at 4000 on the 5900x and it did it on the intel one immediately. Indeed i was even able to tighten up the timings just a touch. So modern processors (and i'd assume the amd ones as well) have made welcome improvements to memory support. Id' say if you don't need as much ram say 32gb, and you don't have ddr4 already to tide you over i'd consider getting ddr5 though. I mean nothing is cheaper than what you have and 4k speed is fine. If i had nothing or maybe some old ram i'd go w/ ddr5. Price: For 570 it’s decent deal here. It is more than i love spending, but for what you get it is a lot better than what amd is offering at the time i write this which was 700. I do wish intel supported board reuse down the line, but that even can. be overblown (to an extent, and only an extent) though it's a selling feature to me frankly reuse!! I had to really think about that. I don't understand why intel is so stubborn on this subject. with my amd cpu i went from 2700x to 5900x and the board went from a 470 to 570 because i waned more io and better pcie but i also gave that board to my kid and upgraded it one time. With intel especially I mean i just buy cheap boards anyway and upgrade more because there are a ton of features that get added half the time. I usually try to spend about 150 on a board, though it. is getting harder but it would be more my preference. I 'm not really onboard with the 600 motherboards. Is there a 300 one in-between i guess so but that's equally unappealing to me esp w/ out the upgrade. Tips/A rant if you will: trust me on this that msi board for 159 is so amazing. It really works great. don’t worry about the vrm. that’s also very overblown too. you can go calculate the amperage this will not come close. ALso msi is a great brand and the bios is easy to navigate. If you want fancy audio buy a dac that you can reuse and plug into usb and keep reusing it. Just think about what you really need in there. The msi board has a nice selection of pcie slots and well placed nvme. I use multiple gpu one nvidia gpu quatro for encoding (its a small one) and and amd one 6900 i bought for 570 for gaming. I just really love the layout connectivity and features of the board. They cut all the stuff i don't need and pared with the cpu it's all together about 700 for a cpu and board, pretty much as good as you can get. They've been solid cpus for me

The Intel Core i9-13900KF, the latest-gen gaming desktop processor, is nothing short of a powerhouse when it comes to delivering unparalleled performance for gamers and enthusiasts alike. With 24 cores (8 P-cores + 16 E-cores) and unlocked overclocking potential, it redefines what you can expect from a gaming processor. Performance (★★★★★): The Intel Core i9-13900KF is an absolute beast when it comes to performance. With its combination of P-cores for high single-threaded performance and E-cores for multi-threaded tasks, it effortlessly handles anything you throw at it. Whether you're gaming, streaming, or running resource-intensive applications, this processor delivers smooth and lag-free performance. Overclocking (★★★★★): If you're an overclocking enthusiast, this processor is a dream come true. Being unlocked, it provides you with the flexibility to push its limits further. With proper cooling and tweaking, you can extract even more performance, making it a top choice for those who love to fine-tune their system. Gaming (★★★★★): Gaming with the Intel Core i9-13900KF is a sublime experience. It excels in delivering high frame rates and low latency, ensuring you get the most out of your gaming sessions. It handles modern AAA titles with ease, and thanks to the E-cores, it can handle background tasks like streaming without breaking a sweat. Thermal Design (★★★★★): While this processor is a powerhouse, it's important to note that it can generate significant heat when pushed to its limits. To fully unleash its potential, investing in a high-quality cooling solution is essential. A well-cooled system will ensure the CPU operates at its peak performance without thermal throttling. Value for Money (★★★★☆): There's no denying that the Intel Core i9-13900KF comes with a premium price tag. However, for those who demand the absolute best in gaming and multitasking performance, it's worth every penny. It's an investment in a system that will remain relevant and powerful for years to come. Compatibility (★★★★☆): It's important to note that this processor requires a compatible LGA 1700 motherboard, which may necessitate a motherboard upgrade if you're coming from an older system. Additionally, it doesn't include integrated graphics, so a dedicated graphics card is a must. In conclusion, the Intel Core i9-13900KF is a game-changing gaming desktop processor that sets new standards in performance and overclocking capabilities. Its 24 cores, unlocked nature, and exceptional gaming prowess make it a top choice for gamers and enthusiasts who demand the best. While it comes at a premium price, the investment is justified by the unparalleled performance and future-proofing it offers. If you're looking to build the ultimate gaming rig, the Intel Core i9-13900KF should be at the top of your list.

An excellent CPU for a build that has it's own GPU support. Intel is a legend in the business, and they produce a superior product. It is fast and is stable at base.

Now, this happens. Products are not always 100% out the door and a reputable company will correct their faulty products, or issue refunds, and the world moves on. But no Intel. First, this is obviously a hardware problem, like the 737 MAX saga. And like the MAX, they are trying to repair a hardware problem with a software fix. This never works, and it really doesn't work with the i9 CPU. One of the problem is, once the instability starts, it cannot be stopped. Also, should you fall behind on BIOS updates (their remedy, not mine), the problem is sure to reassert itself, not to mention, the "fix" is dependent on motherboard manufactures, many, rather than the company that makes the chip one (intel).

It works, not a lemon! Solid processor. Good matchup for my 4070ti. Used for highest and gaming loads with modded out to the max cyberpunk etc. doesn't sweat anything and runs cool with my liquid cooling system.

It's fast, and works better than my space heater for keeping the desk undersides warm. Too warm, really. UPS says the computer is using 575 watts during the CPU stress test, about 175 watts at idle. TPU is 253w ... so with the 80%+ PS inefficiency, 300w makes sense. When using the 3080 GPU with the i9 CPU ... well, the heat coming from the case is similar to a 1000w space heater, really. Now reconsidering my choice for only an 850w PS. 1000w would probably be a better idea for this beast. As for speed. That's relative. But I am coming from an i9-7900x, and this is 3x faster, and it feels 3x faster. Memory is slower, (4ch vs 2ch) -- so I had to use DDR5-6400 to get a similar memory bandwidth. Lost some latency, but the overall effect is the thing still seems plenty fast. I dislike the way the CPU case instantly jumps to 100c -- no thermal mass what-so-ever in the CPU case. Or I have a bad CPU without whatever filler Intel puts between the die and the case. In any case, Intel needs to allow for more thermal mass to reduce these thermal stresses of instantaneous temp changes. Has to be stressing the silicon and lead to more thermal stress failures.

I needed a computer to run minesweeper and defeat the deep state. Minesweeper I still can't get past the first level. The deep state is going down though. Processor (CPU) CPU Name 13th Gen Intel® Core™ i9-13900KF Threading 1 CPU / 8P + 16E Cores / 32 Threads Frequency 5885.6 MHz (59 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 4987.8 MHz Multiplier Current: 59 / Min: 8 / Max: 59 Architecture Raptor Lake / Stepping: B0 / Technology: 10 nm CPUID / Ext. 6.7.1 / 6.B7 IA Extensions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA L1 Data Cache 8 x 48 KB (12-way, 64-byte line) + 16 x 32 KB (8-way, 64-byte line) L1 Inst. Cache 8 x 32 KB (8-way, 64-byte line) + 16 x 64 KB (8-way, 64-byte line) L2 Cache 8 x 2 MB (16-way, 64-byte line) + 4 x 4 MB (16-way, 64-byte line) L3 Cache 36 MB (12-way, 64-byte line) Microcode Rev. 0x119 TDP / Vcore 125 Watts / 1.386 Volts Temperature 42 °C / 108 °F Type Retail P-Cores Freq. P00: 5885.60 MHz P01: 5885.60 MHz P02: 5586.34 MHz P03: 5586.34 MHz P04: 5586.34 MHz P05: 5885.60 MHz P06: 5586.34 MHz P07: 5885.60 MHz E-Cores Freq. E08: 5885.60 MHz E09: 5885.60 MHz E10: 5885.60 MHz E11: 5885.60 MHz E12: 5885.60 MHz E13: 5885.60 MHz E14: 5885.60 MHz E15: 5885.60 MHz E16: 5885.60 MHz E17: 5885.60 MHz E18: 5885.60 MHz E19: 5885.60 MHz E20: 5586.34 MHz E21: 5885.60 MHz E22: 5885.60 MHz E23: 5586.34 MHz Motherboard Model MSI MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI (MS-7D89) Socket Socket 1700 LGA North Bridge Intel Raptor Lake rev 01 South Bridge Intel Z790 rev 11 BIOS American Megatrends International LLC. 1.70 (07/11/2023) Memory (RAM) Total Size 65536 MB Type Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR5-SDRAM Frequency 3291.9 MHz (DDR5-6584) - Ratio 1:33 Timings 34-40-40-90-127-2 (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-tCR) Slot #1 Module Asgard 16384 MB (DDR5-4800) - XMP 3.0 - P/N: VAM5UX66C34AG-CBRAM Slot #2 Module Asgard 16384 MB (DDR5-4800) - XMP 3.0 - P/N: VAM5UX66C34AG-CBRAM Slot #3 Module Asgard 16384 MB (DDR5-4800) - XMP 3.0 - P/N: VAM5UX66C34AG-CBRAM Slot #4 Module Asgard 16384 MB (DDR5-4800) - XMP 3.0 - P/N: VAM5UX66C34AG-CBRAM Graphic Card (GPU) GPU Type AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (Navi 31 XTX) @ 2955 MHz GPU Brand Micro-Star International Co. Lt GPU VRAM 24560 MB @ 2500 MHz Storage (HDD/SSD) Model #1 Name (FW: VE0R6375) Model #1 Capacity 3815.4 GiB (~4100 GB) Model #1 Type Fixed, SSD - Bus: SATA (11) Model #2 Name MSI M570 2TB (FW: EQFM22.0) Model #2 Capacity 1863.0 GiB (~2000 GB) Model #2 Type Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17) Display Screen #1 LG Electronics ( LG ULTRAGEAR (GSM5BD3) Screen #1 Spec 27.2 inches (69.1 cm) / 0 x 0 pixels @ 48-165 Hz Screen #2 ZOWIE XL LCD (BNQ7F32) Screen #2 Spec 24 inches (61 cm) / 1920 x 1080 pixels @ 24-120 Hz Miscellaneous Windows Version Microsoft Windows 11 (10.0) Professional 64-bit CPU-Z Version 2.08.0 (64 bit)

Concerning Intel Core i9-13900KF, I have this CPU with board ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi 6E LGA 1700 for gaming usage. Once I discovered that I had to slow the memory down from the 6600MHz XMP rating to 6200MHz, the board/cpu combo has worked very reliably (multiple passes of OCCT Gold stress test). Just checking the XMP II box, the 6200MHz box and the (so called) AI overclocking box in the bios gives a score of 40K on Cinebench R23 so it's plenty fast -- the loss of 400MHz memory bandwidth isn't a big deal. I tried various other adjustments but the latter turned out to be sufficiently fast and very reliable. My current chip has a Silicon Predictor(SP) of 99 (roll of the dice). I suspect that higher SP levels while possible are rare. I am using a ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 AIO which works OK but the CPU can run hot. The mother board cooling prediction for said AIO is 155 but that is not really enough for this chip to run all out. It is easy to get this CPU up to 100C using OCT Power Stress test. While the CPU might run at 100C for a long time, it will not do it any good and it will not run reliably -- I needed to check the 90C max box in the bios to get it to pass the OCCT power stress test. I have a RTX 4090 and in the OCCT power test the net system power gets up to 1100W. Normal gaming so far never gets to such power levels but still worth considering. FWIW, I have had a CPU apparently fail from running the OCCT Power Stress test. If you want to run this CPU all out with reasonable temps, you really need significant cooling. I doubt any AIO will work for this. I suggest an open loop system with something like a Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO radiator. All said, If you are building a gaming system, you would be just as well served with a ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E and a i9-12900KF CPU. It will be easier to cool and will save you some money for a better graphics card which will make *much* more difference in most games than the CPU.